[He lifts the book a tad as to show the other. Holy Bible is printed on the cover.]
I have read of people who follow a religion whose teachings come from this book. Granted, I believe there is also another religion that has their text they refer to as a Bible as well.
[After that short explanation, he looks back up the aisle once more.]
With how things are set up I'm quite sure that the purpose to this place is to allow the study.
[The book is going to be returned to its place on the bench.]
Not before my arrival to Holly Heights. There had been one religion that dominated the people of Auldrant.
[With straightening up, he shakes his head.]
In March, the holiday of Easter was celebrated. While many people had been familiar with Easter they were not able to explain why it was being celebrated. I decided to look into into the matter for myself and it ended up branching in different directions.
[ That made sense when he believed Auldrant was one, theocratic state, but hearing that now is just bizarre. Even with the Runes holding so much power, there were still other religions (even if Tyr was rather ignorant to most of them).
Maybe Ion's an unreliable source in this case? But he had always been impartial before and seemed to have given up his former position so easily.
That doesn't change the fact, he guessed, that in the end, Ion was a part of a theocracy. Maybe he was just mistaken.
Tyr would go with that and focus on the more important part of this conversation after he got done with staring at Ion. ]
Ah, anyway...I never heard of "Easter" before coming here... It's possible that the people here are celebrating it just because it's a holiday the Landlord chooses to hold a celebration for... It might have nothing to do with this religion for them.
[ Though it might have for the Landlord considering he chose to celebrate it and may have chosen to erect the church as well. ]
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Yes. The people are rather dependent on the center of the religion.
[It isn't too difficult to take the other's expression that as something of disbelief. Ion isn't able to ask Tyr to believe him what he is saying, in the end. Though that may be of something of help if he did but things certainly vary from each world. A whole planet looking at something for various means does sound unrealistic and frightening from where Ion has been standing for the past few months.]
You are more than likely correct but it does not deny that the holiday has a root of sorts.
[ All of this did make Tyr wonder more about Ion and his place in the religion. He was still the leader of a theocracy, and even if no-one else followed his religion here, Tyr really knew nothing about it. It had to be at least a little important to Ion, right?
For now, he'd focus on their current conversation, though. ]
What are the exact origins of it then? You said your research led you to a few conclusions...
[There has not been any reason to bring it up, in the end. Not that Ion has any reason to avoid it if it did come up. A vague reference came up a while ago but besides that...]
There are many religions on Earth. Easter is wildly celebrated by different divisions of Christianity as it was the day the one they deemed as the Messiah, Jesus Christ, walked the Earth after having been deceased for days.
[He pauses.]
Not all religions deem Jesus as the son the God or acknowledge him. In the Jewish belief system, Jesus is not seen as the true Messiah. Granted, there are few who have grown to believe this fact. But I can't say I discovered Judaism on my own. Kaworu introduced the name to me as the structure of my own world seems to be a literal one of a belief in that religion.
[ And even more nodding from Tyr as he tries to follow Ion's explanation. It might have been an oversight in his education when he knew so much else about other countries, but he couldn't say he could compare what Ion was saying to anything that existed in his own world. It answered Tyr's question of the origins of the holiday, but it brought about so many more.
Maybe because of that alone, Tyr ends up just asking about Ion's religion anyway. ]
As in your world sounds like one described in that religion's mythology?
That's right. My own country shares the name as the belief system- Daath. Malkuth is the name of another country which is a place where it seems to be furthest from what is considered the Tree of Life all the while reaching the furthest. Sephiroth hold up this Tree of Life and on Auldrant were valuable for supporting lands above those have been ruined.
[He moves to try to get behind the last row of benches to get to a window.]
I'm sorry, merely spewing out facts will not make a connection any more clear for you with me having told you so little of my home since we've met.
[ Tyr goes ahead and stares up at the stained glass too.
Ion, he didn't even know you were from a place called "Daath."
But yes, his entire explanation goes over Tyr's head. Is he talking about Judaism or Auldrant? Tyr honestly has no idea, but if the land in the myth is the same as the one Ion's from, maybe that makes no difference. He supposes that...Auldrant is supported by a tree of life, and...
No, it still goes right over his head. ]
Yeah... You'll need to start from the beginning for me...
[Because, really, this is not to get Tyr worked up over more things. Maybe it can at least distract the other from his current problems but there is no need to try to add onto the weight.]
[ Tyr wanted to go to know more about Ion's world, but it would require more explanation than Ion probably wanted to get into.
It brought Tyr right back to a question he had when they started talking about all of this, though. There was a small gap of silence before Tyr asked: ]
Your own religion...not many people practice it here, do they?
[Explaining wouldn't be a bother to Ion but he isn't able to read Tyr's mind, either.]
I haven't met anyone else who has, no. While the religion follows the teaching of a person who had lived long ago the focus is on something else. Without being aware of the future, people begin to feel lost.
Sorry, I didn't mean to doubt you... [ Since he knows it has to sound like that. It's not a good idea to offend one of his friends. ] It's just...not everyone's future can be happy, can it?
No, it isn't you doubting me. It is a reasonable argument. While the land is promised prosperity it means for very little. It should not have to make people feel that they must see war because of something that is simply written into a stone. There are other ways to achieve happiness and have it so things are peaceful.
[ He trails off again, wondering where he's even going with this. Somehow he hadn't expected Ion to say that people follow predictions for a happy future and then continue to say that there are other roads to happiness. That's what keeps catching him.
Of course, this is just a conversation. Ion can be impartial and think logically. Tyr has known Ion long enough to know that he really can't know him. ]
If it's not true happiness or prosperity, why do they... [ follow it? - but he's not going to say that. Instead, he continues: ] It sounds more like an excuse to start a war.
It isn't logical. But the Score existed long before my own birth. Asking people to take a step away from it would be too much especially with believing in it.
[But it's soon he is nodding.]
Wars have been written in the Score. When I came to sit as the head of the Order it was written that there was to be a war between two other countries.
[ That really doesn't sound fair... He wants to ask so many things like "How can they start a war just on those grounds?" but he's sure the reasons are more complex than that.
You have no reason to apologise... The teachings and the religion are to be a peaceful one. My country is also one that intends to keep peace between the other two countries. It's also the Order's duty to uphold the Score.
...So when it came down to choosing between keeping peace and upholding the Score...
[ Ion chose peace even if it seems like he wasn't successful. It feels like a weird disconnect, that Ion's religion would be about peace but the "Score" they follow predicts violence.
But if it had existed for so long and really could predict the future, maybe it was just realistic. ]
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[ It's pretty fancy...not that Tyr has anything to compare the church to. He does step beside Ion and look over his shoulder. ]
You can tell just by that book?
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I have read of people who follow a religion whose teachings come from this book. Granted, I believe there is also another religion that has their text they refer to as a Bible as well.
[After that short explanation, he looks back up the aisle once more.]
With how things are set up I'm quite sure that the purpose to this place is to allow the study.
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The rest of Ion's explanation is intriguing as well, though, if only because it seems as though Ion has a bit of knowledge about this. ]
I see...
[ It's so quiet... Though it's also bright and ornate, he could see how and why people would come to study and worship in such a place.
Yes, that is the extent of his thoughts. ]
Do you study other religions often?
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Not before my arrival to Holly Heights. There had been one religion that dominated the people of Auldrant.
[With straightening up, he shakes his head.]
In March, the holiday of Easter was celebrated. While many people had been familiar with Easter they were not able to explain why it was being celebrated. I decided to look into into the matter for myself and it ended up branching in different directions.
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[ That made sense when he believed Auldrant was one, theocratic state, but hearing that now is just bizarre. Even with the Runes holding so much power, there were still other religions (even if Tyr was rather ignorant to most of them).
Maybe Ion's an unreliable source in this case? But he had always been impartial before and seemed to have given up his former position so easily.
That doesn't change the fact, he guessed, that in the end, Ion was a part of a theocracy. Maybe he was just mistaken.
Tyr would go with that and focus on the more important part of this conversation after he got done with staring at Ion. ]
Ah, anyway...I never heard of "Easter" before coming here... It's possible that the people here are celebrating it just because it's a holiday the Landlord chooses to hold a celebration for... It might have nothing to do with this religion for them.
[ Though it might have for the Landlord considering he chose to celebrate it and may have chosen to erect the church as well. ]
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[It isn't too difficult to take the other's expression that as something of disbelief. Ion isn't able to ask Tyr to believe him what he is saying, in the end. Though that may be of something of help if he did but things certainly vary from each world. A whole planet looking at something for various means does sound unrealistic and frightening from where Ion has been standing for the past few months.]
You are more than likely correct but it does not deny that the holiday has a root of sorts.
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[ All of this did make Tyr wonder more about Ion and his place in the religion. He was still the leader of a theocracy, and even if no-one else followed his religion here, Tyr really knew nothing about it. It had to be at least a little important to Ion, right?
For now, he'd focus on their current conversation, though. ]
What are the exact origins of it then? You said your research led you to a few conclusions...
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There are many religions on Earth. Easter is wildly celebrated by different divisions of Christianity as it was the day the one they deemed as the Messiah, Jesus Christ, walked the Earth after having been deceased for days.
[He pauses.]
Not all religions deem Jesus as the son the God or acknowledge him. In the Jewish belief system, Jesus is not seen as the true Messiah. Granted, there are few who have grown to believe this fact. But I can't say I discovered Judaism on my own. Kaworu introduced the name to me as the structure of my own world seems to be a literal one of a belief in that religion.
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Maybe because of that alone, Tyr ends up just asking about Ion's religion anyway. ]
As in your world sounds like one described in that religion's mythology?
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[He moves to try to get behind the last row of benches to get to a window.]
I'm sorry, merely spewing out facts will not make a connection any more clear for you with me having told you so little of my home since we've met.
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[ Tyr goes ahead and stares up at the stained glass too.
Ion, he didn't even know you were from a place called "Daath."
But yes, his entire explanation goes over Tyr's head. Is he talking about Judaism or Auldrant? Tyr honestly has no idea, but if the land in the myth is the same as the one Ion's from, maybe that makes no difference. He supposes that...Auldrant is supported by a tree of life, and...
No, it still goes right over his head. ]
Yeah... You'll need to start from the beginning for me...
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[Because, really, this is not to get Tyr worked up over more things. Maybe it can at least distract the other from his current problems but there is no need to try to add onto the weight.]
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[ Tyr wanted to go to know more about Ion's world, but it would require more explanation than Ion probably wanted to get into.
It brought Tyr right back to a question he had when they started talking about all of this, though. There was a small gap of silence before Tyr asked: ]
Your own religion...not many people practice it here, do they?
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I haven't met anyone else who has, no. While the religion follows the teaching of a person who had lived long ago the focus is on something else. Without being aware of the future, people begin to feel lost.
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The focus is on predictions of the future, then?
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[ Not everyone will be responsible about this. ]
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[ Isn't that heretical? Or at least contradictory. It makes no difference to Tyr even if it does strike him as strange. ]
...I don't completely understand... That's true, but...
[ He trails off again, wondering where he's even going with this. Somehow he hadn't expected Ion to say that people follow predictions for a happy future and then continue to say that there are other roads to happiness. That's what keeps catching him.
Of course, this is just a conversation. Ion can be impartial and think logically. Tyr has known Ion long enough to know that he really can't know him. ]
If it's not true happiness or prosperity, why do they... [ follow it? - but he's not going to say that. Instead, he continues: ] It sounds more like an excuse to start a war.
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[But it's soon he is nodding.]
Wars have been written in the Score. When I came to sit as the head of the Order it was written that there was to be a war between two other countries.
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[ That really doesn't sound fair... He wants to ask so many things like "How can they start a war just on those grounds?" but he's sure the reasons are more complex than that.
In the end, he just shakes his head. ]
Sorry... I shouldn't be asking about all of this.
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[Ion's only able to shake his head again.]
But I could not allow the war to follow through.
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[ Ion chose peace even if it seems like he wasn't successful. It feels like a weird disconnect, that Ion's religion would be about peace but the "Score" they follow predicts violence.
But if it had existed for so long and really could predict the future, maybe it was just realistic. ]
...Were you able to see it end?
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